Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 4

Dan Grievous wrote:Seeing the Umbaran side of the situation is critical for this arc even if it is only for half an episode! Cause we see how epic clones be and what good they could do, but we have never and possibly never see (cause the show is biased) the harm they do!
Yes, they are heroes even more sometimes than the Jedi, cause the clones show heart more. The Jedi are sometimes so bland and blind that is kinda facinating why do the villains just defeat them by exploiting their biggest weakness - helping stereotypically everyone! I know it is cool to help all you can, but in the Jedi's case it is like:
Get random alien or just a lazy human, stick "I am good and I must save all!" in his mouth and you have the next random Jedi. Even Anakin and Obi-Wan tend to be like that.
But arcs like the Mandalorian one in S2 showed the more hearty side of Kenobi.
Anakin - I do not go there as I hate his guts and do not care if he gets eaten by Sarlaccs! lol
Watching Fives suffer in the war has been 600 times more real and engaging than all the "feelings" Aniiiiiiiiiii has shown!

I just wish that the way they do writing magic basically for all clones, they could do a little for at least a few non-Sith CIS character - like Grievous or Gunray even!

General Grievous wrote:

Dan Grievous wrote:

General Grievous wrote:Ok, that's it, I'm drawing the line! Ok, Dan, once again you've taken things out of hand just because everyone doesn't share your exact view on things. Not only did you insult me and my right to an opinion, but you also insulted Jango. While I can take criticism for myself, I refuse to stand by and watch you do the same to others. Seriously, I and everyone else has always respected your opinion, even if we disagree with it at times. Does that mean I insult you saying your comments are "strange" or that you fell from the moon and only watched the first episodes of the series? NO! You are REALLY bordering the line here. You ever wondered why Jedi~Chick got all mad that one time you did the same to her? Well guess what, here's the cold, hard truth-you are a HORRIBLE debater. You break one of the first rules of carrying on a civilized debate-you attack the person, not the problem whenever things don't go your way. I have a right to like both Grievous and the Jedi if I want to, and I do! Jango has the right to dislike the droids in the series as much as he wants to, so he does! GET OVER IT!

Gosh, I hate to say it, but maybe Rex was right-maybe the reason things aren't as busy around here is because the people we do have aren't respectful enough to each other to begin with!

Is it me or you get insulted too easy...
Strange and falling from the moon is nothing to be insulted about! IF I said you are ***** **** *********** or something nasty, I get it, but expressing confusion is kinda not what I think as a rude insult. It is like when I said the word that described the coolness of Cad Bane and right away you jumped up about talking to admins and hate and stuff... Out of nowhere for one word!

Thing is that is kinda STRANGE to say that clones are not Republic and yet everybody knows and says they are part of it. Saying that it is strange to say otherwise. Would you not see a SW fan as strange or fallen from somewhere if he comes up to you and say: "Dude, I love all Star Wars but I never expected and knew Darth Vader was Luke's father and I watched all the movies and TCW!".
For Pete's sake, Jesse wears the Republic's logo on his head. lol
SO excuse me if I think it is odd to claim that CLONES, Republic troopers, are not from the Grand Army of the Republic! I did not mean to question Jango's fandom.

Next you will tell me that the B1 Battle Droids are actually not property of the CIS or The Trade Federation!


Jedi~Chick got annoyed cause I talked about god! For which I apologized to the nice girl...

BTW: People question all the time and say that I am too strange for loving the Quarren and Tikkes cause they had done nothing and Tikkes was a lame background character that did not deserve attention. BUT in the end I say why I like him and do not care if 99% people do not care about him or think he is pointless or think I am messed up for liking him. I do not take it personal!
Same with Grievous when people insult his awesomeness, I still do not care what people say that much, I still love him.

SO sorry if you got offended for my confusion!

I technically wasn't offended, I was just telling you that your getting ready to cross that line. I was basically giving you heads-up if you were going to go down that far like what happened to Jedi. But either way, apology accepted.

As for that "one word" thing, again, the exact same scenario. I wasn't offended, but others might be offended reading that. I look out for more than myself you know. I try to keep the site as a whole clean and responsible. HA didn't make me an admin just to sit back and WAIT until those things happen. I'm supposed to make sure they don't happen in the first place.

Dan Grievous wrote:

General Grievous wrote:Ok, that's it, I'm drawing the line! Ok, Dan, once again you've taken things out of hand just because everyone doesn't share your exact view on things. Not only did you insult me and my right to an opinion, but you also insulted Jango. While I can take criticism for myself, I refuse to stand by and watch you do the same to others. Seriously, I and everyone else has always respected your opinion, even if we disagree with it at times. Does that mean I insult you saying your comments are "strange" or that you fell from the moon and only watched the first episodes of the series? NO! You are REALLY bordering the line here. You ever wondered why Jedi~Chick got all mad that one time you did the same to her? Well guess what, here's the cold, hard truth-you are a HORRIBLE debater. You break one of the first rules of carrying on a civilized debate-you attack the person, not the problem whenever things don't go your way. I have a right to like both Grievous and the Jedi if I want to, and I do! Jango has the right to dislike the droids in the series as much as he wants to, so he does! GET OVER IT!

Gosh, I hate to say it, but maybe Rex was right-maybe the reason things aren't as busy around here is because the people we do have aren't respectful enough to each other to begin with!

Is it me or you get insulted too easy...
Strange and falling from the moon is nothing to be insulted about! IF I said you are ***** **** *********** or something nasty, I get it, but expressing confusion is kinda not what I think as a rude insult. It is like when I said the word that described the coolness of Cad Bane and right away you jumped up about talking to admins and hate and stuff... Out of nowhere for one word!

Thing is that is kinda STRANGE to say that clones are not Republic and yet everybody knows and says they are part of it. Saying that it is strange to say otherwise. Would you not see a SW fan as strange or fallen from somewhere if he comes up to you and say: "Dude, I love all Star Wars but I never expected and knew Darth Vader was Luke's father and I watched all the movies and TCW!".
For Pete's sake, Jesse wears the Republic's logo on his head. lol
SO excuse me if I think it is odd to claim that CLONES, Republic troopers, are not from the Grand Army of the Republic! I did not mean to question Jango's fandom.

Next you will tell me that the B1 Battle Droids are actually not property of the CIS or The Trade Federation!


Jedi~Chick got annoyed cause I talked about god! For which I apologized to the nice girl...

BTW: People question all the time and say that I am too strange for loving the Quarren and Tikkes cause they had done nothing and Tikkes was a lame background character that did not deserve attention. BUT in the end I say why I like him and do not care if 99% people do not care about him or think he is pointless or think I am messed up for liking him. I do not take it personal!
Same with Grievous when people insult his awesomeness, I still do not care what people say that much, I still love him.

SO sorry if you got offended for my confusion!

1. Not cause of kids as it has been proven that the majority of the viewers are not CN viewers but SW fans who tune in for the show, see it and change the stinkin channel!
2. Cause the writers on the show are one of the worst ever
3. Cause we have George Lucas who has had his brain power reduced to that of a toddler and toddlers never make the best ideas
4. Cause CN and LFL push Jedi and Clone propaganda mainly
5. The show is biased and not as good as other animated series that tend to be serious and dark like Batman the Animated Series or Beast Wars!

General Grievous wrote:Ok, that's it, I'm drawing the line! Ok, Dan, once again you've taken things out of hand just because everyone doesn't share your exact view on things. Not only did you insult me and my right to an opinion, but you also insulted Jango. While I can take criticism for myself, I refuse to stand by and watch you do the same to others. Seriously, I and everyone else has always respected your opinion, even if we disagree with it at times. Does that mean I insult you saying your comments are "strange" or that you fell from the moon and only watched the first episodes of the series? NO! You are REALLY bordering the line here. You ever wondered why Jedi~Chick got all mad that one time you did the same to her? Well guess what, here's the cold, hard truth-you are a HORRIBLE debater. You break one of the first rules of carrying on a civilized debate-you attack the person, not the problem whenever things don't go your way. I have a right to like both Grievous and the Jedi if I want to, and I do! Jango has the right to dislike the droids in the series as much as he wants to, so he does! GET OVER IT!

Gosh, I hate to say it, but maybe Rex was right-maybe the reason things aren't as busy around here is because the people we do have aren't respectful enough to each other to begin with!

Dan Grievous wrote:Grievous, you are strange in some of your comments!

You love Grievous but yet you support the stupid Republic and clones... What's up with that!?

Jango Nova wrote:

CISFANBOY wrote:

Dan Grievous wrote:

General Grievous wrote:I'm sorry to disagree, I really am, but you're wrong. The clones are not part of the Republic. They have been forced into a war that really has nothing to do with them. They are dying meaningless lives with no benefit for themselves or their own. They are their own group that needs to be explored separately from the Jedi and politicians.

I see so in that case we should look into some Battle Droid episodes and episodes that focus only on the individual groups like the Umbarans and the Quarren, we should have special episodes for every group obviously!

PS: The Clones are Republic, for Tiin's sake, THEY ARE PART OF THE GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC.
Next you will be telling me that Padme is not human and is instead an alien being that has nothing to do with Humans! lol
Why so many of you can not recognize what stupid tools they are and the lack of humanity they possess.

I agree with Dan we really need some episodes that focus on the battle droids. They really under use the droids on this show there are loads of clone characters and plenty of them survive battles but we never get any battle droid characters. Surely there must be plenty of battle droids that survive battles and I also think they should start doing color patterns on some of the droids so we can tell the difference.

The thing is that the droids are stupid in this series. Even the Tactical droids make TONS of tactical errors. Point in fact is that this is a Kids show. The Kiddies like the Clones and Jedi so that is what they are going to focus on. If you want more CIS i suggest reading the books because thats where you are going to get the villians you want.

CISFANBOY wrote:

Dan Grievous wrote:

General Grievous wrote:I'm sorry to disagree, I really am, but you're wrong. The clones are not part of the Republic. They have been forced into a war that really has nothing to do with them. They are dying meaningless lives with no benefit for themselves or their own. They are their own group that needs to be explored separately from the Jedi and politicians.

I see so in that case we should look into some Battle Droid episodes and episodes that focus only on the individual groups like the Umbarans and the Quarren, we should have special episodes for every group obviously!

PS: The Clones are Republic, for Tiin's sake, THEY ARE PART OF THE GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC.
Next you will be telling me that Padme is not human and is instead an alien being that has nothing to do with Humans! lol
Why so many of you can not recognize what stupid tools they are and the lack of humanity they possess.

I agree with Dan we really need some episodes that focus on the battle droids. They really under use the droids on this show there are loads of clone characters and plenty of them survive battles but we never get any battle droid characters. Surely there must be plenty of battle droids that survive battles and I also think they should start doing color patterns on some of the droids so we can tell the difference.

Dan Grievous wrote:

General Grievous wrote:I'm sorry to disagree, I really am, but you're wrong. The clones are not part of the Republic. They have been forced into a war that really has nothing to do with them. They are dying meaningless lives with no benefit for themselves or their own. They are their own group that needs to be explored separately from the Jedi and politicians.

I see so in that case we should look into some Battle Droid episodes and episodes that focus only on the individual groups like the Umbarans and the Quarren, we should have special episodes for every group obviously!

PS: The Clones are Republic, for Tiin's sake, THEY ARE PART OF THE GRAND ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC.
Next you will be telling me that Padme is not human and is instead an alien being that has nothing to do with Humans! lol
Why so many of you can not recognize what stupid tools they are and the lack of humanity they possess.

Dan Grievous wrote: Why so many of you can not recognize what stupid tools they are and the lack of humanity they possess.

General Grievous wrote:I'm sorry to disagree, I really am, but you're wrong. The clones are not part of the Republic. They have been forced into a war that really has nothing to do with them. They are dying meaningless lives with no benefit for themselves or their own. They are their own group that needs to be explored separately from the Jedi and politicians.

General Grievous wrote:Ok, WOW, it's been sometime since I've read almost two pages of threads to keep up with the conversation! Ha, I don't even know where to begin!

I guess I'll just keep up the Ahsoka appearnce conversation going on right now.. I'm sorry to say Ahsokasister, it'll only be a cameo at best. Umbara has been a clone centered arc the entire time, we haven't even seen that much of Krell! But don't worry, you'll get plenty of Ahsoka during the slavery arc, I'm sure.

And while I'm on the Umbara subject, I'm going to refer to an old conversation a couple pages back. Whoever said we've seen enough of the Republic's viewpoint is wrong. Not on the sense that we've seen a lot of that, but in the sense of who's viewpoint this is. This is the CLONES viewpoint, something we've never seen to this extent. Even Rookiees didn't show us the clones up close and personal like here. The only episode that even came close was Clone Cadets, and unfortunately that was a single, stand along episode. That's not nearly enough for the front line soldiers dying every minute for a deceived cause!

Ahsokasister wrote:*sniff sniff*

Dan Grevious: "there is no hope"

Ahsokasister: "YES THERE IS. THERE'S ALWAYS HOPE!"

sigh but alas u r probably right... her head taild are to points to be that anyway

Ahsokasister wrote:whoops didn't even know that section existed, I will go do that now