Star Wars: The Clone Wars Season 4

SWneedsSASR wrote:On the Subject of Darth Mual, I think that there is one thing to remember, the dark side opens many abilities that the jedi find unnatural, its possible, but I hope that this is some kind of ressurection, that he did NOT survive the fall and instead was resurected by sidious, - I still think bringing darth mual into the CW was a pretty well, stupid Idea, we had Savage I thought that was enough, but I mean, they knew alot of fans would be shocked, so they have to have something good planned for the reason why he still walks amoung the living

Dan Grievous wrote:

SWneedsSASR wrote:On the Subject of Darth Mual, I think that there is one thing to remember, the dark side opens many abilities that the jedi find unnatural, its possible, but I hope that this is some kind of ressurection, that he did NOT survive the fall and instead was resurected by sidious, - I still think bringing darth mual into the CW was a pretty well, stupid Idea, we had Savage I thought that was enough, but I mean, they knew alot of fans would be shocked, so they have to have something good planned for the reason why he still walks amoung the living

I have one and only one good reason why the TCW team is resorting to this: RATINGS!
Other than that - Lucas has started to think like a child! Gone is the wize man of the past, here is childish old man...
Example: Old George would think that no voice in the Vader lifting Palpi scene is cool and gives more depth and subtlety! The George of these days thinks like 9 year old and thinks that every scene needs to be vocalized to make sense or to be epic, which is 100000% wrong! Case and Point: The best Pixar animations happen without any dialogue/talking!
So I have lost faith in Lucas's ability to tell a story. The only reason we have Savage is cause Filoni was the voice of reason and told George that he can not just bring Maul back!

SWneedsSASR wrote:On the Subject of Darth Mual, I think that there is one thing to remember, the dark side opens many abilities that the jedi find unnatural, its possible, but I hope that this is some kind of ressurection, that he did NOT survive the fall and instead was resurected by sidious, - I still think bringing darth mual into the CW was a pretty well, stupid Idea, we had Savage I thought that was enough, but I mean, they knew alot of fans would be shocked, so they have to have something good planned for the reason why he still walks amoung the living

SWneedsSASR wrote:ahhh, so many posibilities, im really looking foward to the unumbra arc with rex, seeing wolffe in mercy mission once agin sparked my memory on just how interesting clone arcs can be, Clone Cadets/ARC Troopers, Rookies, Grevious Intrigue ( I think thats what the episode was called on selicumi, oi spelling) they all turned out well with interesting characters, but we still have a whole 2/3 of the season which is shrouded in mystery, we know there will be a showdown between grevious and ventress along with the rest of the night sisters, and comeon, grevious has had s many strikes he is bound to hit back again sometime, there is a reason why he is a general. to see the jedi you guys mentioned again would be great, lets just hope nomad droids this week can pull of a script even better than mercy mission, whilst I liked it, I can see alot of people have mixed opinions about it, lets hope this ep clears those up.

Dan Grievous wrote:

SWneedsSASR wrote:ahhh, so many posibilities, im really looking foward to the unumbra arc with rex, seeing wolffe in mercy mission once agin sparked my memory on just how interesting clone arcs can be, Clone Cadets/ARC Troopers, Rookies, Grevious Intrigue ( I think thats what the episode was called on selicumi, oi spelling) they all turned out well with interesting characters, but we still have a whole 2/3 of the season which is shrouded in mystery, we know there will be a showdown between grevious and ventress along with the rest of the night sisters, and comeon, grevious has had s many strikes he is bound to hit back again sometime, there is a reason why he is a general. to see the jedi you guys mentioned again would be great, lets just hope nomad droids this week can pull of a script even better than mercy mission, whilst I liked it, I can see alot of people have mixed opinions about it, lets hope this ep clears those up.

Hope you are right... by this point I doubt it! There was a Q&A with Filoni a while back after S4 ended I think. I asked and he chose to answer me. I ask about in the line of "Will Grievous ever win in the show"...
His response was that Grievous will get his kicks at some point in the future of the show. At that point I said to myself "Season Four will be Grievous's moment to shine!"... but NO!~
Grievous being defeated and dragged by mentally-challenged frogs was hit in private area for me on that hope. Maybe that will be it... Grievous will get his kicks - by Gungans, by Galia and Plo Koon, by Ventress!
I am hoping Grievous kills Galia cause out of all the Jedi that appear in the show she is the most worthless and needs to die so the favorite General of mine could shine a little on how he is a genius at what he does.
And not being written like a total spoiled brat that doesn't see the obvious defeat! Maybe Galia will die, maybe not, but as far as experience goes from the show: If you want and think something will happen in a certain way, TCW team will ruin it and do it the opposite and spit in your face (Case and Point: The Quarren being evil and Tikkes being the show!)
One thing I would love: the fact that we are getting Plo Koon going for Galia (save her or fail to save her) means we could get finally a duel that was meant to happen but did not in S1: Grievous vs Plo Koon duelling on a side of ship in space. Let's hope the episode "Nomad Droids" is better than expected with Grievous kicking a little Jedi around.
Now! About Ventress... seeing the scene in the trailer with her and her sisters makes me doubt Grievous would win at all. My beloved General was taken down by stupid frogs, how could he fair any better against such an enemy like the Nightsisters?!
That being said and the fact that Lucas and co ignore all canon from the old show and comic series like the fact that Grievous made pillow stuffing out of Ventress AND Durge which made him Dooku's fave and Grievous got the title he has. But in the show that is ignored and if going only on the show and Grievous's performance in it - he would not make it pass captain, let alone Supreme Commander of Droid Armies. Plus, these days Lucas loves Ventress too much and even has his daughter write her nice episode to develop her!
So saying this about Ventress and Lucas's hate towards Grievous, the episode will most likely be the next in a long line of fake-looking defeats for my favorite General with maybe Dooku coming in the end and aiding his cyborg ally. Thus them together beating all the sisters of Dathomir and taking over the planet!

Dan Grievous wrote:

Here is how he looks! Enjoy, Maul Fans!

For me:

Ok... I know I am talking for this, but>>> Having Tikkes in TCW is impossible and hard to do not to "mess up" canon! Having Grievous win for once is so hard for the team at LF to do...
BUT having this guy return is SOOOOOOOOOO possible. I mean the guy was not only cut in half, look deadish, but also fell down a mile long hole!!! Anybody could recover from that and that will not make canon or previously established events pointless - like Qui-Gon's death! Nyaah! His killer now lives which means he died for nothing! Congrats, Lucas, you looney toon!

Cad Bane's chick wrote:LOL!! I'm looking forward to seeing Maul in TCW. He was a good character and didn't last long enough in TPM. Looks like Sam Witwer will be voicing him too.

Jango Nova wrote:Im still trying to figure out how he lived... considering last we saw him he was chopped in half and falling down a reactor...

Cad Bane's chick wrote:Jango Nova, anything is possible in this "galaxy far far away". LOL!! I don't understand it either but I'm sure Dave and George will come up with a substantial explanation.

Jango Nova wrote:

Cad Bane's chick wrote:Jango Nova, anything is possible in this "galaxy far far away". LOL!! I don't understand it either but I'm sure Dave and George will come up with a substantial explanation.

Eh im really not all that worried by it cause Maul has already appeared in a Comic a while back after he was "killed" Wonder if he will have robotic legs or something like that..

Dan Grievous wrote:

Here is how he looks! Enjoy, Maul Fans!

For me:

Ok... I know I am talking for this, but>>> Having Tikkes in TCW is impossible and hard to do not to "mess up" canon! Having Grievous win for once is so hard for the team at LF to do...
BUT having this guy return is SOOOOOOOOOO possible. I mean the guy was not only cut in half, look deadish, but also fell down a mile long hole!!! Anybody could recover from that and that will not make canon or previously established events pointless - like Qui-Gon's death! Nyaah! His killer now lives which means he died for nothing! Congrats, Lucas, you looney toon!

Cad Bane's chick wrote:Jango Nova, anything is possible in this "galaxy far far away". LOL!! I don't understand it either but I'm sure Dave and George will come up with a substantial explanation.

SWneedsSASR wrote:ahhh, so many posibilities, im really looking foward to the unumbra arc with rex, seeing wolffe in mercy mission once agin sparked my memory on just how interesting clone arcs can be, Clone Cadets/ARC Troopers, Rookies, Grevious Intrigue ( I think thats what the episode was called on selicumi, oi spelling) they all turned out well with interesting characters, but we still have a whole 2/3 of the season which is shrouded in mystery, we know there will be a showdown between grevious and ventress along with the rest of the night sisters, and comeon, grevious has had s many strikes he is bound to hit back again sometime, there is a reason why he is a general. to see the jedi you guys mentioned again would be great, lets just hope nomad droids this week can pull of a script even better than mercy mission, whilst I liked it, I can see alot of people have mixed opinions about it, lets hope this ep clears those up.

SWneedsSASR wrote:

Jango Nova wrote:

can I just say one thing in defence of mercy mission, it was a planet wide relief mission,

But again. Why send an entire Clone Legion there when they can go straight to the rendezvous ? According to Wolffe it was the "Senator from Naboo's" Idea for them to help out, so why couldn't she send her own people instead of a military asset? Im sure that their are Civilian organizations in during this time that do these sorts of things all the time.

I like to look at real historical events to analyse things, and since Star Wars draws alot of its roots from real events, (order 66 for instance being the mix of several ocasions) its only natural that I think of such events such as the earthquake in japan, New Zealand, and the Cyclone that just battered my own coastline a few months back, yeah there are plenty of civillian services for these issues, but in all of them forced entire international task forces full of peace keeping and aid troops, I mean think about it, you have an efficient force which can be on the scene before the logistics of mounting a civilian rescue effort are even in place. and remember, Senators have authority over the military in the Republic, dam I feel like such a nerd XD, oh yeah and grevious, its good to be back, Ive been out with the Cadets getting my glider wings, getting ready to go solo, just have to perfect landings thats all, or get them down to only one bounce lol, gliding may not sound that much but with the acceleration of a winch luanch you feel like your flying one of these

Cad Bane's chick wrote:I agree. Grievous was really cool in ROTS.

I LOVE Ki-Adi Mundi. I hope we can see more of him this season.

ARC Trooper wrote:

Cad Bane's chick wrote:I agree. Grievous was really cool in ROTS.

I LOVE Ki-Adi Mundi. I hope we can see more of him this season.

I agree.I want to see him too,along with other characters like Shaak Ti.

Cad Bane's chick wrote:Yeah, I like Shaak Ti too.

I really liked Barriss and Lumiara in Season 2. I hope they return, I'd like to see Barriss a little older.

StarWarsTalkShow wrote:Eh, I guess it all depends on what type of stuff you like to see in TV Shows and I am fine with the whole side story episodes, but that is all we are starting to see. BTW Is Shaak Ti coming back in S4?

Dan Grievous wrote:Do you all just want to see Jedi!? That is cool, I love Barriss and Mundi!

BUT THE REALLY AWESOME THING TO SEE AGAIN IS>>>>>>> The Good Old CIS Officials and Generals from the movie, Season 1 and Season 2!
Like Gunray, Wat Tambor, Nuvo Vindi, Whorm Loathsom, Mar Tuuk, Lok Durd, Poggle The Lesser, Admiral Trench...
I love the new CIS villains from S3 and S4 but I am tired of expendable villains like that. I got so in love with Sobeck and Tamson, but then the TCW team decided to kill them off - the first in a more stupider way than the latter. Seriously!
I think up until Trench TCW team were afraid to kill characters as they did not have skills to make too many too fast. That is why Durd did not die in S1 and so did Vindi. But these days, seeing how they vomit up dozens of one-off cameos like the ones in the Mando episodes of S3. Btw by pointless one-off cameos I do not mean CIS commanders... but all the republic senators, clones, doctors, guards and more who we will never see again. They make so many of them.
BUT when it comes to a nice cameo from a CIS leader from the movies, they say it is too hard not to destroy canon! REALLY?!?!?! Remember Even Piell...
Example of what I mean:
We are getting a prison break from Republic Holding Facility that looks like the Citadel.

I would expect since they will be busting all villains in the jail, they could bring most of the villains I mentioned above for a sweet cameo. After all, Poggle was in the prison on Coruscant and was next to Ziro the Hutt's cell...
Another is the upcoming slave arc that will focus AGAIN on Anakin's pms-ing past! That arc is based 100% on the comic "Slaves of the Republic" ( I have comparings between the comic and trailer for S4, it looked like the TCW team are using the comic almost like storyboard!). And in that comic during a slave aucion in which Kenobi is part of (plus I have seen Kenobi having shackles in the last scenes of the trailer - the one with the many whipping guards.) we have SHU MAI AND WAT TAMBOR present wishing to buy some slaves. In the end they escape.
I hope things happen, but knowing how lazy ( at writing CIS stuff ) are the team of writers at the TCW department, I doubth we will ever see them again! CASE AND POINT: NO TIKKES on DAC and the "What the" end of "Shadow Warrior"!

And that is the thing that annoyes the bell out of me. Because in S2 we got so many cameos from Anakin, they just couldn't resist putting him in every scene. AND even if he did nothing, TCW team just put him there.
This continues to this day. And in the Moncalamari episodes it seemed the most out of place - you know why! THE CHOSEN IDIOT CAN NOT BREATH UNDER WATER!
That is why... they can put that annoying character in every arc for no reason, but can not make nice other things.
I mean the annoying Skywalker has been in every battle so far, but since S2 and Geonosis he has been present in every episode of a major arc. In S1's Ryloth we had a nice arc with him being the star of only the first part, while the rest were given to the equally important and much cooler Jedi - Mace Windu and Obi-Wan Kenobi. These days, Lucas feels the disturbing need to put Anakin in every major battle, including the one I mentioned above which in of itself was idiotic since the original battle in the old show had right away Kit Fisto and not landlovers like Anakin! So instead of people getting their favorite Jedi center stage, we will be getting more of that annoying ONE! And by that I mean Umbara.
Instead of making other Jedi stand out like the highly anticipated Krell, we will have the same old boredome of watching Anakin wave his saber at us! Sorry, but that is just too much, MR. CRAZY LUCAS!
It is like Lucas is a robot and whe he sees a battle:
"PUT Anakin, my lovechild, in it! Even if it does not make sense..." Just stupid!
When will the day come when we have a major battle arc and NOT HAVE Anakin the all-annoying appear...

PS: I know WHO Anakin is and I do not care... the show is about the Clone Wars and was in Season 1. Since S2, it has been mainly "Anakin's repetitive adventures"! Sorry, but I can get pass the idiocy that Lucas is when it comes to this show and its awesome battles!

Cad Bane's chick wrote:I really like the voice of Shaak Ti in TCW. It really suited her complete look and attitude.

Cad Bane's chick wrote:I agree. Grievous was really cool in ROTS.

I LOVE Ki-Adi Mundi. I hope we can see more of him this season.